Even C grade players can make Table Tennis look good.

[pingpongrob]

So ye all think that I'm a C grade player. Well at least my style is inspiring.

C Grade play

Faster than speeding bullet, More powerful than a locomotive, Its a bird, no its a plane, no its PINGPONGROB & SUPACHOP

[Vinnie]

That music is enjoyable. Far better than the table tennis.

No, I quite like the videos of you two playing, it gives me inspiration to play as good as that. He has got quite a supa chop, doesn't he?

[big ears]

Nice, you can't beat editing all of the shit out, the opposite of my last clip sent in by JKC, where by all of my shit was edited in.

[RebornTTEvnglist]

Wow that was terrible! Nearly blew up my computer. The screen sort of went blurry and things started cracking and pixelating all over the place. I could barely see the TT! And it started out looking so promising.  :o

[Peter C]

Some nice shots in there, but shame about the dodgy special effects.

The white silhouette of the snow boarder looked a bit out of place on a TT video.

[pingpongrob]

Nice, you can't beat editing all of the shit out, the opposite of my last clip sent in by JKC, where by all of my shit was edited in.

Did you want to see 54 mins of mistakes. I might have ended up being a D grade player.

[supachop]

You left out a lot of good stuff too.  mate.

[pingpongrob]

Wow that was terrible! Nearly blew up my computer. The screen sort of went blurry and things started cracking and pixelating all over the place. I could barely see the TT! And it started out looking so promising.  :o

Barely seeing the table tennis - thats the whole idea. Imagine if it was clear, I might have been rated even lower in our Forum Rating System.

[pingpongrob]

You left out a lot of good stuff too.  mate.

I didn't, the Programs took the clip I had and compressed, then expanded, then compressed again taking all the good bits out. But then again what could possibly be expected from a C grade player anyway.  :(

[pingpongrob]

Some nice shots in there, but shame about the dodgy special effects.

The white silhouette of the snow boarder looked a bit out of place on a TT video.

Did you say Dodgy  :o

[pingpongrob]

Table Tennis Clip

[big ears]

Supachop, I like the attire, 'the black menace' must be a little hot in there though?

[Der Echte]

Rob, you know Big Ears said all that C grade stuff just to get you to make some good vids.

Big ears, keep it up. These vids Rob and supachop keep cranking out are nice.

[supachop]

Supachop, I like the attire, 'the black menace' must be a little hot in there though?

It is freezing in there.

[pingpongrob]

Supachop, I like the attire, 'the black menace' must be a little hot in there though?

It is freezing in there.

I have a layer of blubber to keep me warm :-\

[Vinnie]

A jumper isn't sufficient?

[pingpongrob]

A jumper isn't sufficient?

Believe me Vincent its really cold. Thats why sometimes I have to start the heater.

[speedplay]

The video was nice, with out the special effects. TT is dazzling enough to provide it's own effect with out adding more.

Now, it seems to me Rob is a little cranky about being called a C grade player >:D

To be honest, your bh put away shot looks really nice and even if this is a stroke that most players actually can make, I struggle with it, so that particular shot impressed me.

The rest, well, it didn't look bad, but even I could look like a class player if I made a collection of my best shots. I know a lot of people claim that they edit out some bad shots as they aren't interesting to watch, but lets be honest, it is to make it all look a little better, right?

You can not judge a player by the shots he makes, but rather by the shots he don't.

[Peter C]

VincentB

July is part of the winter season, in Australia and similar weather wise, to January in the UK or USA.

Rob and Supachop

Keep up the videos. The second video is the best one to date.

Speedplay

With anti on the backhand, would I be right in thinking that the backhand put away is a harder shot to play, than with an inverted rubber; where you'd be able to use topspin, to make the shot more effective?

[Vinnie]

Yeah, I live in Northern NSW, and it's warm as up here.
Though I did go to New Zealand for 3 weeks, so I might be a bit biased again Australian cold.

[pingpongrob]

The video was nice, with out the special effects. TT is dazzling enough to provide it's own effect with out adding more.

Now, it seems to me Rob is a little cranky about being called a C grade player >:D

To be honest, your bh put away shot looks really nice and even if this is a stroke that most players actually can make, I struggle with it, so that particular shot impressed me.

The rest, well, it didn't look bad, but even I could look like a class player if I made a collection of my best shots. I know a lot of people claim that they edit out some bad shots as they aren't interesting to watch, but lets be honest, it is to make it all look a little better, right?

You can not judge a player by the shots he makes, but rather by the shots he don't.

Cranky - not at all. What is not right is the fact that if you oppenants are quality, then you have to do what ever is necassary to win the point, even if it looks bad.

Now as for the Video, Speedplay, can you not see how much work and placement is ut on each ball. Look at the footwork required to get in position to make the correct stroke - and just 4 months after the knee reco. If you saw me playing against a true C Grade player, you would notice that infact my level is higher. Thats one of the reasons why I always have one of the lowest handicaps when playing in our handicap tournaments, yet still manage to get into the final.

Playing players like Supachop - will always make a good style look crap. Even Big ears knows this. Lots of mistakes are made against him - He's a quality player, he moves like lightning, not your average player. Every ball has something on it to make it hard, No Easy Points Here.

Speedplay - look at the clips, they are all started from the service, and finish at the end of the point. Bad players may have good shots, but fail to execute the point from the service onwards.

Maybe I should post a video of me playing another A grade Club player - just to see how devistating my style can be. ;)

[supachop]

Maybe I should post a video of me playing another A grade Club player

Yes you should. Im sure everyone would like to see that.

[RebornTTEvnglist]

The video was nice, with out the special effects. TT is dazzling enough to provide it's own effect with out adding more.

Now, it seems to me Rob is a little cranky about being called a C grade player >:D

To be honest, your bh put away shot looks really nice and even if this is a stroke that most players actually can make, I struggle with it, so that particular shot impressed me.

The rest, well, it didn't look bad, but even I could look like a class player if I made a collection of my best shots. I know a lot of people claim that they edit out some bad shots as they aren't interesting to watch, but lets be honest, it is to make it all look a little better, right?

You can not judge a player by the shots he makes, but rather by the shots he don't.

Cranky - not at all. What is not right is the fact that if you oppenants are quality, then you have to do what ever is necassary to win the point, even if it looks bad.

Now as for the Video, Speedplay, can you not see how much work and placement is ut on each ball. Look at the footwork required to get in position to make the correct stroke - and just 4 months after the knee reco. If you saw me playing against a true C Grade player, you would notice that infact my level is higher. Thats one of the reasons why I always have one of the lowest handicaps when playing in our handicap tournaments, yet still manage to get into the final.

Totally agree Rob, which is why people who only think they know how to judge a persons skill off a video will always go wrong.  ;)

[speedplay]

The put away shot with the anti is a lot harder, in fact, it is so hard so I don't use it, I twiddle to make the put away with the inverted rubber. The problem I have is that I use to much arm and to little wrist to get the required speed.

Rob, I know how it is to play this style, don't forget that I'm a defender my self, but even so, playing an hour and taping it, I'm sure I could get at least 10 minutes worth of points that would make me look a lot better then I am.

People often look at these good shots and actually think that they reflects their level, while they seem to forget all about the bad shots in between. News flash, every point counts and most players will find that they rarely play up to the level they think they belong to. I know this was the biggest surprise for me when I first watched my self on video, to see the amount of unforced errors.

[Vinnie]

So, what actually IS anti?

[big ears]

So, what actually IS anti?

 Anti Loop rubber. A low friction, dead inverted rubber, designed to be used to control heavy topspin (loop) it was invented before LP's as an answer to the modern Loop, a stroke that defenders in particular found hard to control back in the 70's. The only time a major championship has been won with anti loop was when John Hilton Won the European Champs in 1980, many combination players these days prefer to use pimples as they tend to be harder to read.

[pingpongrob]

The put away shot with the anti is a lot harder, in fact, it is so hard so I don't use it, I twiddle to make the put away with the inverted rubber. The problem I have is that I use to much arm and to little wrist to get the required speed.

Rob, I know how it is to play this style, don't forget that I'm a defender my self, but even so, playing an hour and taping it, I'm sure I could get at least 10 minutes worth of points that would make me look a lot better then I am.

People often look at these good shots and actually think that they reflects their level, while they seem to forget all about the bad shots in between. News flash, every point counts and most players will find that they rarely play up to the level they think they belong to. I know this was the biggest surprise for me when I first watched my self on video, to see the amount of unforced errors.

Ok so on the night that this video was recoreded, I either was an A grade Veteran or SupaChop was a C grade veteran - your decision. I think SupaChop has to make a post here.

In a match between 2 good players, there will always be mistakes made by the inferior player on the day. That doesnt mean that the loser is a great deal lower in standard.

[RebornTTEvnglist]

There is always a winner and a loser in a match. And people of similar standard will usually trade turns at winning and losing. Often it is the pressure of the occasion some people handle better. If a player beats another in comp and then loses in practice matches does it mean he is better? I don't think necessarily so. Might just mean he handles pressure better, does not make him a technically better player. The guy who doesn't have the killer instinct under pressure, may be more skilled in every other area. Handling pressure is acknowledged as a skill in itself, and a differentiator between equally or closely skilled players. But its not the be-all and end-all. Or is it?

I played some practice matches last Thursday night with 3 other guys who are all A graders in Dandy seniors. We swapped around having a little round robin before comp started for about an hour. I took games off 2 of them and went close against the other. These guys were 2 to 4 divisions above me, but I could compete with them just fine. If I played them in comp though, I might not do as well.  Or I might who knows? (Actually I will get some sort of answer to that next Thursday when we meet 2 guys that play the same grade/same team even in Senior Pennant as one of these guys). So much depends on the night and how you are feeling and what transpires in a game. TT is so dynamic. Every game has its little confidence builders and bursters that can change the landscape drastically within the blink of an eye (or the landing or missing of a shot).

[Vinnie]

Right. Thanks Big Ears.

So, can you buy anti new, or do you have to make the inverted rubber old youself?

[RebornTTEvnglist]

You buy the anti new Vincent. There is an anti produced by most manufacturers. Butterfly Super-Anti, Yasaka Anti-power, Nittaku Best Anti, Juic Neo-Anti to name a few.