Xiom Omega 2

[sunflex]

Hi Rob and others,

How does this rubber play is it similar to Magna? How grippy is the topsheet,what's the sponge hardness and how fast is it? Does it play well on soft carbon blades like Waldner Carbon Senso?

[pingpongrob]

Hi Rob and others,

How does this rubber play is it similar to Magna? How grippy is the topsheet,what's the sponge hardness and how fast is it? Does it play well on soft carbon blades like Waldner Carbon Senso?

NO No No, magna has a soft sponge - if im correct. The Xiom Omega 1 is 45 degree & Omega 2 is 47.5 degree, much harder than Magna. But having said that, The Omega 1 is better on a Hardish blade, than  soft one.

[Silver]

Stiga say it's "medium".

I just checked the hardness of a red magna vs red omega II

The Omega II feels very very marginally softer. 1 degree maybe.

[pingpongrob]

Stiga say it's "medium".

I just checked the hardness of a red magna vs red omega II

The Omega II feels very very marginally softer. 1 degree maybe.

What did you check them with. I dont think you can test with your fingers, not sensitive enough to measure 5 degree's

I consider the hardness as follows - soft to hard

Implus speed
Plasma woman
Plasma 380
Plasma 430
Omega 1
Plasma 470
Omega 2

If I had a sheet of Magna available I would test it, I'm going on from the many hits I've had with a Magna over the years. I think you will find that the Stiga Magna has varied in Hardness over the years.

[alfie]

I had a magna about 2 weeks ago I thought it was pretty hard,harder than markv

[supachop]

Rob, I have a sheet of Magna. I will bring it on monday. You can test it then.  Magna does tend to vary a fair bit.

[sunflex]

How grippy is the topsheet,what's the sponge hardness and how fast is it? Does it play well on soft carbon blades like Waldner Carbon Senso?

[Silver]

typical tensor topsheet.

[sunflex]

typical tensor topsheet.

I have never tried a tensor so what's a tensor topsheet like? Is it grippy, hard,soft? How is the speed of the rubber compared to magna?

[alfie]

typical tensor topsheet.

I have never tried a tensor so what's a tensor topsheet like? Is it grippy, hard,soft? How is the speed of the rubber compared to magna?

tensor topsheets are normally soft and very elastic,most of them are not durable but I have used impuls speed for about 3 weeks now and it looks brand new it's for sure the most durable tensor topsheet I have seen

[priior]

most of them are not durable

you know i read this elsewhere as well.. ive used my previous plasma 430 for 6 months (black) and 4 months (red), and it looked like new. (i put in about 10-12hours/week of constant training/play)


that's at 4 months.

i think, if you take care of ur rubber, they last a long time. if u bang it on the table constantly, well yah, they break.

[gekogark1212]

Ok, so I couldn't wait and bought O2 myself.
Here goes:

Speed wise Omega 2 >>> Bryce Speed
For the 1st time in my life I thought I was RSM, as long as you hit into the ball, the thing flies at speeds only seen when I had used 14 layers of glue on my H3.
Also it is not too responsive to the incoming spin.

But as always, there is give and take. Xiom wasn't joking when it said this is designed for the professional player. Although I won't say I have spent a fair amount of time practicing it...and I'm just going to say it...difficult. Also since it's not response to others spin, it doesn't create spin too well eith (at least in the 1st and 2nd gears), but once you start going deeper into the sponge, it spins a great deal (just like Bryce Speed...you really gotta hit hard).

If it weren't for the terrible (ok, terrible is too harsh, perhaps "sub-par" is a better word) short game, this would be THE GLUE SOLUTION.

[pingpongrob]

The Short game is no problem at all for me, although Supachop is amazed at some of the short ball I place with my Fast Blade and Omega 2. Sometimes I even amaze myself.

I do have some Omega 2 coming with a softer sponge. - Maybe a week away.

[dwie]

How do you guys take care of your Tensors?

I have the 430 plasma now. When I am not playing I use the plastic sheet that comes along with it. When I am playing I put the plastic sheet on the white piece of paper that also comes with the rubber/foil. The problem I have now, is that the plastic sheet is now dirty, because the sticky side tends to attract a lot of dust. As a result the sheet doesn't stick to my rubber anymore . Anyone have this problem? What can I do to solve this?

Thanks in advance.

[Silver]

get some dishwashing liquid and clean the sticky side of the tensor foil with it under the tap.

The dust will slide off, then let it dry.

[priior]

i was wondering the exact same thing! thanks silver!!

[dwie]

Thanks a bunch Silver . Going to try it out now.

[Silver]

Omega 2 (clean chack) on my stradivarius is pretty hard and fast. Loops go flat.

Not sure about this combo. Omega 2 might play a bit nicer on a hinoki top.

[Skippy]

I'm looking at your TBS setup, and thinking that that looks like a good setup.  Is that kinda your alltime best setup thus far?

[Silver]

I dunno
I've been pulling the plasma on and off my BH for a while now - found it difficult to control previously and kept switching back to sriver fx. Tonight though, it seemed pretty good. Had better control pushing (always a hard task trying to keep a reverse penhold push short but still spinny) and was ripping clean winners off it.

As for the 999 Elite ultima...

Might change it. There's no doubt that it's easy to loop with and it's got a pretty good short game, but it doesn't have the top end that the Cermet I was using before had.

I'm a bit in favour of the TBS over the Strad. at the moment. Feel is a bit better on loops.

[alfie]

Sil
Have you tried a very soft rubber on the strad?

[Silver]

what do you consider very soft?

[Skippy]

Fleece hooded sweatshirts.

[Silver]

I don't have any of those.

[Skippy]

Ok, then how about Plasma Women?  What's the softest jap/euro rubba ya got?  Try that on the Strad!  Better yet could you let me know how the EU would perform on the Strad?

[alfie]

what do you consider very soft?

as soft as sriver fx or softer

[pingpongrob]

Ok, then how about Plasma Women?  What's the softest jap/euro rubba ya got?  Try that on the Strad!  Better yet could you let me know how the EU would perform on the Strad?

Impuls Speed is a touch softer than the plasma Women.

either of them is Very Suitable for backhand use.
Getting back to the Original topic, the Omega 2 (STANDARD VERSION or as some call it Asian Version) is the spiniest Tensor I have ever used, amazing amount of spin for such a fast rubber. Yet still lots of feel.  I for one did not like the harder sponge rubbers (47.5 degree), but the omega 2 has totally changed my mind.

[sunflex]

Ok, then how about Plasma Women?  What's the softest jap/euro rubba ya got?  Try that on the Strad!  Better yet could you let me know how the EU would perform on the Strad?

Impuls Speed is a touch softer than the plasma Women.

either of them is Very Suitable for backhand use.
Getting back to the Original topic, the Omega 2 (STANDARD VERSION or as some call it Asian Version) is the spiniest Tensor I have ever used, amazing amount of spin for such a fast rubber. Yet still lots of feel.  I for one did not like the harder sponge rubbers (47.5 degree), but the omega 2 has totally changed my mind.

It sounds really good!

[sunflex]

Ok, then how about Plasma Women?  What's the softest jap/euro rubba ya got?  Try that on the Strad!  Better yet could you let me know how the EU would perform on the Strad?

Impuls Speed is a touch softer than the plasma Women.

either of them is Very Suitable for backhand use.
Getting back to the Original topic, the Omega 2 (STANDARD VERSION or as some call it Asian Version) is the spiniest Tensor I have ever used, amazing amount of spin for such a fast rubber. Yet still lots of feel.  I for one did not like the harder sponge rubbers (47.5 degree), but the omega 2 has totally changed my mind.

It sounds really good!

But why is it so much better than plasma 430,470 and xiom omega 1 egp desto etc? And how durable is it? Is it more durable than Andro Plasma serie?

[pingpongrob]

But why is it so much better than plasma 430,470 and xiom omega 1 egp desto etc? And how durable is it? Is it more durable than Andro Plasma serie?

Firstly, the Andro Impuls speed is very differant to all other tensors on the market, the Topsheet is not fragile at all. Mines been on my blade for a good 4 months, and its edges are perfect. (I dont know how they do it, as I'm not a rubber Chemist)

Secondly, The very soft sponges under the topsheet usually feel a little musshy, but this one doesn't.

Thirdly, this rubber has plenty of gears, it can be used as a control rubber or as a good looping rubber with decent speed.

I'm not saying that its perfect, but just about everyone that has used it is absolutely impressed with this one, especially myself. Most people use it on their backhand.

The durablity can not be compared to the plasma, desto, tango type rubbers - they are not in the same league.