Author Topic: VOC Free Glue's (Read 2907 times)

pingpongrob · « **on:** October 30, 2007, 10:34:57 AM »

My sample of the new VOC free water based glue arrived from Xiom Yesterday.

There was 2 items, a blade sealer & a Glue. I've been looking forward to trying them to see how hard they are to use.

Surprise Surprise. Both items are much easier to use than the regular solvent based glues.

The Blade sealer took about 30 seconds to apply, and dried without lifting any of the blade grain. The package states that it should be left 4 hours before sticking rubbers on the blade.

The Glue was easy to use as well, apply a few dob's on the rubber, and use the sponge thats included to spread it around, nice and evenly. Much easier to use than regular glue as well, as it gives more time to evenly spread the glue. Didn't take long to dry either.

The same is done to the blade, allowed to dry as well, then both items are placed together, and rolled.

I tested to see what sort of adhesion resulted. - Very good, no more edges comming away with the slightest touch of the table. The rubber comes of the blade if need be, a little more force is required.

I will post a video on how its done later on tonight.

Skippy · « **Reply #1 on:** October 30, 2007, 12:57:14 PM »

YATTP seems to have nothing but good things to say about the new VoC free Andro glue.

Silver · « **Reply #2 on:** October 30, 2007, 03:01:33 PM »

Is this sealer/glue combo pretty much identical to the Andro one?

pingpongrob · « **Reply #3 on:** October 30, 2007, 03:03:57 PM »

Quote from: "Silver"

Is this sealer/glue combo pretty much identical to the Andro one?

I'd say so. Its just that Andro were to scummy to send over some samples. And Andro call theirs "FREE SEAL" & FREE GLUE. Pretty confusing to me.

supachop · « **Reply #4 on:** October 30, 2007, 03:11:28 PM »

I like the FREE part. :lol:

Silver · « **Reply #5 on:** October 30, 2007, 03:35:55 PM »

false marketing

aeoliah · « **Reply #6 on:** November 05, 2007, 01:15:28 PM »

And the sealer can be bought separately ? What is the price ?

pingpongrob · « **Reply #7 on:** November 05, 2007, 01:48:07 PM »

Yeah, Each item is sold seperately, I will post a video soon of me applying it to the blade. Very easy - even a kid could do it.

I have Some Mysterious Supplier stock (Keep Guessing Skippy) coming in Soon, Not sure what price, but can guarantee it will be Affordable.

Silver · « **Reply #8 on:** November 05, 2007, 02:57:30 PM »

mysterious eh.
So the people who have VOC glues are:

Butterfly
Stiga
Donic
Andro
xiom
Falco/Berenger
Joola
Tibhar

We can rule out Donic, Andro, Xiom. Rule out Tibhar as well, since a birdy told me that Tibhar didn't want to make an exclusive dealership.

So we're left with Bty, Stiga, Falco, Joola...

pingpongrob · « **Reply #9 on:** November 05, 2007, 03:46:55 PM »

Quote from: "Silver"

mysterious eh.
So the people who have VOC glues are:

Butterfly
Stiga
Donic
Andro
xiom
Falco/Berenger
Joola
Tibhar

We can rule out Donic, Andro, Xiom. Rule out Tibhar as well, since a birdy told me that Tibhar didn't want to make an exclusive dealership.

So we're left with Bty, Stiga, Falco, Joola...

Who Said anything about exclusive.

Silver · « **Reply #10 on:** November 05, 2007, 03:55:24 PM »

Well, you were trying to keep it under wraps so nobody would whinge...

I forgot about Juic.

pingpongrob · « **Reply #11 on:** November 05, 2007, 06:59:11 PM »

Here's the link for those that want to have a look at applying the Water based Glue & Blade Sealer - ENJOY

http://http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=830899977383381808&hl=en-AU

Atomica · « **Reply #12 on:** November 05, 2007, 07:27:18 PM »

I think you need some forum members to test the effect of the glue Rob, to provide a wide range of feedback and opinion. I would be happy to *test* how the Omega 2 works on the Kinetic CF Carbo Aramid Off, and the Xiom Stradivarius. And maybe I could help *test* how the Impuls Speed and Plasma 430 work with glue and those blades as well... ;)

The glue looks nice and easy to apply, though I wonder how long the applicator sponge will last until it needs to be replaced.

And what effect do these glues have on the various glue-effect rubbers. Do they enhance the glue effect like using a glue such as Butterfly 'Clean Chack' does?

pingpongrob · « **Reply #13 on:** November 05, 2007, 08:15:39 PM »

No, No, they are not speed glues, all they are good for is to apply the rubber to the blade. No need for speed glue with Plasma's & Omega's

Atomica · « **Reply #14 on:** November 06, 2007, 09:35:00 AM »

I know they aren't speed glues, but neither is Butterfly Clean chack- which is only supposed to apply the rubber to the blade, not speed glue it. However, with a few of the glue-effect and tensor rubbers, using normal glues like Butterfly Clean chack enhance the glue effect of the rubber quite a bit, giving it a freshly speed glued feel, though it dies off after a day.

I know a few people who glue their Tango rubbers with normal glue before each session to enhance it's glue effect, but they don't speed glue because that would wreck the rubber.

I was just wondering if these new Glue's, that aren't speed glues, would have the same enhancing effect on tensor and glue effect rubbers.

pingpongrob · « **Reply #15 on:** November 06, 2007, 10:49:36 AM »

Quote from: "Atomica"

I know they aren't speed glues, but neither is Butterfly Clean chack- which is only supposed to apply the rubber to the blade, not speed glue it. However, with a few of the glue-effect and tensor rubbers, using normal glues like Butterfly Clean chack enhance the glue effect of the rubber quite a bit, giving it a freshly speed glued feel, though it dies off after a day.

I know a few people who glue their Tango rubbers with normal glue before each session to enhance it's glue effect, but they don't speed glue because that would wreck the rubber.

I was just wondering if these new Glue's, that aren't speed glues, would have the same enhancing effect on tensor and glue effect rubbers.

No Speed Glue effect what so ever - Thats the way I like it, Super predictable.

Silver · « **Reply #16 on:** November 06, 2007, 11:23:52 AM »

Quote from: "Atomica"

I know a few people who glue their Tango rubbers with normal glue before each session to enhance it's glue effect, but they don't speed glue because that would wreck the rubber.

I used to do that.
Both of them (but not at the same time)

Clean chack gives a wee bit of affect because it is a volatile glue. It has some of the solvents (though a much lower %) that make speedglue speedy, so if you evaporated speedglue you'd end up with something like clean chack.

Skippy · « **Reply #17 on:** November 13, 2007, 12:15:21 AM »

Can you get those water based glues in the small tube so I don't have to pay $20 for putting two tensor rubbers on my Strad?

Silver · « **Reply #18 on:** November 13, 2007, 12:24:45 AM »

You could pay $20 and put 200 tensors on your strad... over 20 years

Skippy · « **Reply #19 on:** November 13, 2007, 12:31:07 AM »

GAH! That just sounds like financial torture! You're killing me Silver! It does sounds fun (NO! Fight the Silver/like tendencies!). Ok, I'm convinced, Silver you are the Devil!

Skippy · « **Reply #20 on:** November 13, 2007, 03:32:39 AM »

Not according to Joola. $20 doesn't get you squat! http://www.megaspin.net/store/default.a ... scid=joola

Talk about a bloody rip off!

Skippy · « **Reply #21 on:** November 15, 2007, 08:04:23 AM »

Quote from: "pingpongrob"

Here's the link for those that want to have a look at applying the Water based Glue & Blade Sealer - ENJOY

http://http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=830899977383381808&hl=en-AU

Where do you have this stuff for sale? I don't see it.

Wiz · « **Reply #22 on:** November 15, 2007, 08:30:06 AM »

Hey Rob,

Stop telling us about it and put it up on the site for sale lol...

pingpongrob · « **Reply #23 on:** November 15, 2007, 11:03:40 AM »

They were sent to me as testing samples, Xiom had to make sure we were happy with the Product.

I just ordered some, Will hopefully arrive in about 7 Days.

The Donic water based glue's and sealers will be arriving on the 14th of December.

Skippy · « **Reply #24 on:** November 15, 2007, 12:19:05 PM »

Are you thinking that it they will be six of one and half a dozen of the other as it pertains to the differences between the brands of these?

pingpongrob · « **Reply #25 on:** November 15, 2007, 04:52:11 PM »

I'm tipping that they are all made by the same people, but who knows for sure.

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Author Topic: VOC Free Glue's (Read 2907 times)