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[pingpongrob]

Lets start this off as a members only Video clip section.

[pingpongrob]

Ok, Here's my pathetic example Playing supachop.

http://http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=-228453164147361465

Before you all harass me, remember this fella is in A1 & i'm in A3. We also puts every ball back in an awkward position, and make you doubt your shots.
I beat him 3-1 as you will see, But he did take the first set of me 3-0.

Also note, normally he doesn't miss a ball against me.

I will post a video of me playing a Normal player later tonight. now all will see why he's an Alien.

[Skippy]

Interesting.  Does he loop drive with Short Pips?  That table on that flooring looks just crazy fast!  I would really work on getting that serve much shorter to keep away from that backhand loop drive.  That thing looks pretty nasty.  It looks like it would be kinda hard to block too as I am not sure how much spin it has on it.  The last game you looked alot stronger as you kept the ball shorter till you wanted to turn it.  You were patient, and Supachop was not in the last game.  That room looks too small for as fast as that table looked like it played....heh.

[Der Echte]

I have made a few clips from a cross country trip and some matches with my Texas friends and from a few tourneys. I post on youtube and anyone can search Der_Echte... I am not an advanced player and look really ate up against them.

http://http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Der_Echte&search=Search

[pingpongrob]

Interesting.  Does he loop drive with Short Pips?
I am not sure how much spin it has on it.
That room looks too small for as fast as that table looked like it played....heh.

They are long pips he's using at the moment.
The long serves are there for a reason - long little bit of backspin, so my return comes long with a little bit of topspin. The bugger returns the balls into the most awkward positions, He make me look like shit. He also twiddles, so you never know what your gunna get.
We just had a bit of stock arrive, so it quite small at the moment. We only use the room for training and a few games. No competition is played there

[alfie]

I noticed a few times you served him long and fastish not fast he had trouble with them,maybe you should throw a few long fast serves to his BH.I hate that funny rubber
       One other thing I noticed Rob your BH is better than FH but your BH loop is to verticle maybe try going more forward and you will get more power and more will not go long.I would rather hit it into the net than long as if you hit into the net you know your stroke has to be faster but hitting long you know you made the wrong stroke.
      Seems you both had a great time playing very nice to see,supachop would be a very dangerous player to play against he is good from both wings especially his FH very nice technique,he needs to pick his shots better on BH though

[supachop]

Come on rob. Put on the first match.

[pingpongrob]

I would rather hit it into the net than long as if you hit into the net you know your stroke has to be faster but hitting long you know you made the wrong stroke.

Thats a very good point, never thought of it that way.

supachop would be a very dangerous player to play against he is good from both wings especially his FH very nice technique,he needs to pick his shots better on BH though

He has a magnificent forehand. I got absolutely thrashed in the first set. I'll post that video soon, Just to show you all how deadly he can be.  

[supachop]

Alfie, Normally i dont hit on my backhand side. I normally chop on that side. I was hitting just for a bit of practice.  The pimples i am using are BTY Feint long II. with 1.3 mm sponge. Nothing funny there.  Forehand is Xiom Yanus DF  1.5.

[supachop]

Rob, If you serve long to me with a little bit of backspin, You are very unlikely to get a return with topspin on it.

[Silver]

I would rather hit it into the net than long as if you hit into the net you know your stroke has to be faster but hitting long you know you made the wrong stroke.

Thats a very good point, never thought of it that way.

I would rather hit it long, as it's easier to hit it into the net than long. At least when you hit it long you know that you can lift it. Then, it's just a matter of adjusting the length, which is also tied into the power.

In other words, it's easier to become more aggressive and hit lower/harder than to rein in and hit higher/safer. The former can be a psychological boost. The latter can be a detriment.

[alfie]

Sil
     When looping a backspin push with the BH you don't need to have your stroke very vertical,blade speed and forward momentum will get it on the table,heavy chops are a different thing
                                 Most of the balls that go into the net is probably because the blade speed isnt fast enough

[pingpongrob]

Rob, If you serve long to me with a little bit of backspin, You are very unlikely to get a return with topspin on it.

Then all the theories I have read are Wrong. Can you please explain to all of us, what will come back.

[priior]

nice game!! holy crap does supachop have a killer smack from his backhand! rob gives him a slow backspinny chop to his back hand then *SMACK* to the wide forehand corner.. very nice!

rob awesome blocks from the forehand. those are super tough to do from mid-distance! also i think what supachop means is if u give him a long serve with a tiny bit of backspin on it, u will most likely end up with a faster that the speed of light smack to your forehand :)

one thing i did notice tho, supachop gets tired faster than rob.. as he got tired, his started missing more and more "easy" shots...

alfie: if the topspin goes into the net it usually means the body stance was not right... id rather hit long than into the net as well.. adjusting a long stroke to be shorter is relatively easy.. stroke that go into the net need more body adjustment to get them right.. no? (like more legs etc..)

[alfie]

He mostly chops the ball back to you Rob so you will get added backspin pretty sure feint 11 is friction pips,if he blocks you may get a bit of wobble but nothing like playing agaist Destroyer or one of the Hallmark LP's

[alfie]

alfie: if the topspin goes into the net it usually means the body stance was not right... id rather hit long than into the net as well.. adjusting a long stroke to be shorter is relatively easy.. stroke that go into the net need more body adjustment to get them right.. no? (like more legs etc..)

         I guess we have different opinions but for me if I loop a backspin ball and it goes long I feel I have lifted a ball that does not need lifting,but if it goes in the net it means my blade speed was not fast enough.I think you only need to lift heavy backspin balls.

[pingpongrob]

one thing i did notice tho, supachop gets tired faster than rob.. as he got tired, his started missing more and more "easy" shots...

Your gotta be joking, I was sweating my arse off. SupaChop is so fit, he could run Marathon's. I told you he was an Alien, and I mean It.

[Der Echte]

Enjoyed the vid. I would gladly take a crack against any of you, especially Supachop. I like it where I have to initiate the attack or get bitch-slapped. I especially like looping against bottomspin. I don't expect visiting OZ anytime soon, unless you chaps pay a visit to the OZ soldiers at our future camp. Maybe 2009...???

[priior]

alfie: as far as i'm concerned, every ball is topspinnable.. no matter the backspin on it.. even with the slowest of blades.. the trick being to accelerate into the ball faster that the spin that's already on it, and proper angles.

u topspin a ball off the table, u close the bat angle a bit and ur in business. you topspin a ball into the net, means u didnt accelerate enough into the ball, probably because of bad form.  

any thoughts from anyone else?

[alfie]

Priior,
     
       Watch Samsonov here in the blue shirt the balls coming at him is topspin and the green shirt they are coming at him backspin.His blade still is moving forward into the ball,that's all I was saying.
              Only with heavy chops do you have to go very verticle

           http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn10X3T2Lug

[speedplay]

Rob, If you serve long to me with a little bit of backspin, You are very unlikely to get a return with topspin on it.

Then all the theories I have read are Wrong. Can you please explain to all of us, what will come back.

Rob, what kind of theories have you been reading? Cause serving a back spin and anticipating a top spin requires the use of frictionless from your opponent, then this is true. With Feint Long II, Supachop can probably put what ever spin he wants on the ball. Thats the reason why regular long pips are so much more dangerous then frictionless.

The playing area looked real tight, so I wouldn't do well in it, needs lots of space to play. Seems like you guys managed to play and enjoyable game despite this. Well done and must say that the spped Supachop managed to get from his 1.5 rubber impressed me.

[supachop]

Rob, what kind of theories have you been reading? Cause serving a back spin and anticipating a top spin requires the use of frictionless from your opponent, then this is true. With Feint Long II, Supachop can probably put what ever spin he wants on the ball. Thats the reason why regular long pips are so much more dangerous then frictionless.

 Rob, This is correct.

The playing area looked real tight, so I wouldn't do well in it, needs lots of space to play. Seems like you guys managed to play and enjoyable game despite this. Well done and must say that the speed Supachop managed to get from his 1.5 rubber impressed me.

Speedplay, the room is to small for me as well. I would normally play as a chopper and only attack the weak balls

[speedplay]

In that case, you impressed me even more since you weren't playing your regular game. I used to be a chopper but I'm currently working on getting closer to the table and play a bit more offensive from both wings. Might even give up on pips once the frictionless are banned, but I'm still not sure. Got whooped badly yesterday with double inverted...

[alfie]

you may want to try SP on your BH Speedplay

[speedplay]

Nope, been there, done that, got the t-shirt. SP surely wasn't for me. My natural Bh stroke involves topspin, probably more so then my Fh, so SP didn't work at all, its either long or inverted... Or perhaps anti, it's not as effective as Lp but still kind of fun to fool around with.

[pingpongrob]

In that case, you impressed me even more since you weren't playing your regular game.

I'm telling you all, SUPACHOP is a class player, Only the real real good player give him a really hard time. In the first set we played, which I still have to upload, I got absolutely Thrashed  :ugeek: . He pull some shots out, that only world class players can do.

[speedplay]

. He pull some shots out, that only world class players can do.

I wouldn't rate a player by his best shot as we all can get lucky. Even I can hit shots that would make Waldner proud. Judge players by constancy and how strong their weaknesses are, gives a more accurate view according to me. In the video, Supachop missed to much to be considered being a great attacker, but once he cleared that up, I'm impressed with his offensive game. Would love to see him play his real chopping game, might give me some pointers about how I could improve my game.

[pingpongrob]

When I post the first set, you will understand what I mean. All out Attack, no problems for him. Especially against a weak player like Me.
I will organise a match where he chops more, so all can see a good Club Chopper in Action.

BTW, I'm not saying he's a world class player, I'm saying that some shots are really world class, and yes at times we all have world class shot, some more than others - thats what makes Waldner so great.

[sunflex]

the link doesn't work google video says the video does not exists? Could you please fix it I'd like to see you both play

[speedplay]

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