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Spot the Differance
« on: February 05, 2008, 04:16:59 PM »
Here's a Modification I did for one of my mate's

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Firstly spot the differance.

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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2008, 06:23:30 PM »
Sides cut down a little? Some off the top too? Couldn't see much else but haven't studied it much yet.

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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2008, 06:37:55 PM »
you trimmed the sides AND thinned the blade? *points* YOU MONSTER!  :P
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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2008, 07:34:39 PM »
Still waiting for a few responses, Some answers are close but not exactly right.  :cry:

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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2008, 09:52:21 PM »
This i think is an optical illusion.

You are looking at 2 photographs of the same blade, taken from above.

The blade is horizontal, thereby making it easier for the pen to be placed above the blade in each photograph.

The pen for picture 2 has been moved away from the blade, creating the impression that the blade has been shortened in length.

The angle of the second picture is slightly different from the first, If you look at the second picture, you can see more of the badge insert on the handle. It also subtlely changes the angle we are viewing the blade from and our perception of the width of the blade.

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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2008, 12:05:48 AM »
it's not an illusion the bottom blade's hitting area is shorter from above.

not just the pen, but look at the distance between the logo and the top.
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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2008, 02:12:30 AM »
Blades head has been cut down so that its shorter and you have also altered the shape of the blade. The original has a wider low end (Close to the handle) while your modification seems to be the broadest at the top.

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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2008, 03:27:53 AM »
Changed the balance of the blade a bit.
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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2008, 07:20:26 AM »
like a haircut.. a little off the top.. a little off the sides.. thanksalot!
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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2008, 02:57:28 AM »
Some off the top and you have cleaned a small speck of dirt from just right of the centre of the blade. You have also turned the bat slightly blurry, how did you do that?

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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2008, 03:07:21 AM »
Rob, I tend to agree with Speedplay, but please tell me what is the meaning of viewed 27 times and 30 times and why the size of the picture is not the same (626 and 550 KB) ?
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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2008, 09:10:29 AM »
It looks like some has been shaved from top of blade. The bottom pic looks way lighter, so maybe some sealant accounts for this, if it wasn't different lighting conditions, then maybe Speedplay spilled some Fosters all over it - (Alcohol Abuse alert!). There is no visable way to tell if the bottom-side where the fingers tough the edge of the blade have or have not been beveled, as well as if where the finger rests on the hook has been beveled. The bottom of the hook looks like ithas been shaved a timy bit as well.
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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2008, 10:48:05 PM »
Both photographs are taken looking at a blade and pen set up on the centre line and white line at the back edge of a blue Table tennis table, possibly a Stiga Master.

The lighting and shadow show it was taken with a flash camera, with little or no natural light in the room at the time.

The handle of photo 1 is less over the white line than in picture 2, whilst the pen is also higher in picture 2 than picture 1

The angle of the camera and the zoom has been slightly adjusted to change the perspective in picture 2. It also guarantees you can't match up the two pictures to compare differences between the blades by doing half of each blade, side by side.

This along with the pen being moved higher can create the impression the blade has been trimmed at the top and sides, a trick that's used in CGI work in films and television. The perceived top modification is because of the position of the pen, but look closer ignoring the pen and the curvature at the top of the blade looks the same in both pictures.

Rob's wording :

Here's a Modification I did for one of my mate's

The automatic assumption is the blade has been modifed. However i think the modification is the placement of the pen above the blade, along with a slight change in camera angle, zoom and the blade being slightly moved between the pictures.  

It is an old trick of illusionists like David Copperfield who make a statement that can be taken a different way to the correct way i.e. Give somebody part of the truth in a sentence and people fill in the blanks.

i may be wrong, but i think it is 2 pictures of the same blade, cleverly done by someone who knows a thing or two about photography and optical illusions..

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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2008, 12:24:32 AM »
let's take into account that rob knows more about timber than he does about photography!
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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2008, 01:08:10 AM »
Is anyone correct yet Rob? Or do we keep looking and guessing?
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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2008, 01:26:04 AM »
I thought Peter was barking up the wrong tree but I'm not so sure. The difference may simply be the movement of the pen.
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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2008, 05:48:03 AM »
the top of the blade has been sanded down a bit, and also the handle is a bit shorter in lenght at the top.(inside the blade)

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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2008, 07:23:04 AM »
edges of the handle are sanded the handle is a little shorter and the head has been sanded down a little.

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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2008, 07:25:53 AM »
OK, there's a few correct answers so far. I sliced 5mm off the Top and rounded the top corners again.

Now for the second question, HOW MUCH WEIGHT DID I REMOVE By DOING SO. :twisted:

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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2008, 08:42:35 AM »
I changed my mind again, I think you lopped off a mighty 4g (but from the right area).

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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2008, 09:09:34 AM »
No idea about the blade, the composition or anything, so I'm not going to do the math on this one, simply a wild guess at 6g's...
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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2008, 09:32:52 AM »
Quote from: "speedplay"
No idea about the blade, the composition or anything, so I'm not going to do the math on this one, simply a wild guess at 6g's...

I like lots of American words and spellings, but Math, no way. The word is Maths. Math just sounds so naff.

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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2008, 02:07:20 PM »
im gonna go the psychology angle again and go with..

since u did it and posted about it must be worth it enough..

so i'm gonna guess 10% and maybe even slightly more.
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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2008, 03:25:32 PM »
I'll guess at a flat 7.4grams.
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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2008, 03:53:15 PM »
8.2 grams.....
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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2008, 04:53:06 PM »
Anymore Guess's :lol:

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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2008, 10:56:42 PM »
by 10% i meant 10grams!
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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2008, 08:09:17 PM »
7 grams !
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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2008, 08:11:43 PM »
Come on fella's you goto do better than that.

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Re: Spot the Differance
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2008, 09:49:55 PM »
Did you take 500g off by pulling off the ply of lead on the back that Champion were experimenting with?